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I need to either ink with markers, print from pencils, or do the whole damn thing digitally, because I'm way too slow to keep trying to fit both pencilling and inking in one day.  It takes me usually a little less than a day to pencil a page, and like 3 hours to ink the fun parts of the page, then the intricate sucky parts take me way more time than I'd like to admit. It isn't sustainable. So, what do you guys think? If you like the marker route, what types and sizes to do you suggest? Ideally, I'd get a great line while cutting out the dipping, and cleaning. Should I go digital? What're your thoughts on pencil only pages?
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:iconmeemzer:
I think there is really something to be said for the look of traditional inking. I mean, when you look at a digitally inked and traditionally ink piece side-by-side on a screen there isn't much difference however, if you were to look at the two side-by-side in person the traditionally inked piece is richer and has more appeal. That being said, time is valuable and if you are spending too much time inking traditionally then you will be losing money. 

I think that what ArminOzdic said down in the comments is really clever--that you can pencil and ink digitally, and then on the pages you really like, print the digital pencils and ink them to sell. It is a good solution that gives you the best of both worlds.
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antalas Aug 16, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Hire an inking assistant.  There are plenty of skilled guys looking for inking work.
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shurita Aug 8, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I think that a quick way to increase production is working with an inker, though I know that not all gigs are suited for this, maybe just the ones wich demand shorter deadlines, and there is always the issue of finding the right guy, but anyway, sometimes it is a good option.
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Jaxink1 Aug 8, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Need an assist?
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mechangel2002 Aug 4, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Honestly I often use Copic multiliners and no one can tell the difference :D

Digital inking is harder than it looks, takes time, practice and experience to look like proper inks.
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:icongatorgraffix:
Well, inking digital is way cleaner but you lose a certain amount of control, in my opinion. I do both and really don't have a favorite. Perhaps you should do the fun stuff and send me the rest to do for you :D
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MarkIrwin Jul 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Oops. Someone else using the same name! I meant, :iconurban-barbarian: !
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MarkIrwin Jul 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Personally, I hate digital inking- it never keeps the nuance you can achieve through traditional inking. However, that being said, :iconurbanbarbarian: does some amazing stuff with both digital and traditional. He'll assemble his loose pencils (blueline) quickly digitally, then print them out and ink with a brush pen and markers. Some of the slow stuff (background buildings, etc.), he'll ink digitally and print out, then inking around it. I've watched him pencil and ink a page in around 3-5 hours- but he's a beast. It takes me on average 8-10 hours to ink even an average page, let alone pencil too, lol! But Dan's just flat out amazing.
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I am totally an inking purest. That's why I wrote this so conflicted.  I've always been a brush, and crowquill-only inker.  I think it looks the best, and makes a nice sellable page.  I've gradually allowed myself to start pencilling digitally, as long as I'm still inking traditionally. I'm just so incapable of doing the two quickly. I've tried many page sizes and all sorts of tools, in an effort to make a nice looking printed page, in a timely fashion. Ideally, I'd have Mr. Morales, Mr. Leisten, Mr. Irwin or Mr. Prado ink my work. But with the nature of the project I'm trying to do, it all falls on me. I just look at stuff like Frank Cho's work, and heard rumors he uses microns, and it makes me rethink my process. At the end of the day, I just need to speed up, and become Dan Panosian...or that other guy you linked to ;)

Sorry for whining off of your comment. I'm just jealous of quick people. I still think inking a Doug Green Lantern page in 10 hours is speedy though!
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MarkIrwin Jul 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Well, I applaud anyone who can do both- it never worked too well for me. If Frank's using microns, he's darn good at hiding it- it all looks brush-y to me! Perhaps the way to go is this: if you KNOW your own work really well, lay down your pencils in sketchy form, then go to ink to 'finish' it. A lot of the old school masters did that, and to a certain extent, is what guys like Dan are doing now. Some of the newer guys have told me they basically just blow up their thumbnails, print them out, and ink over that. I don't know if that would still equate to a page a day, but it seems like it would.

Anyhoo, take all advice from a guy who traditionally inks and DOES NOT pencil with a grain of salt! And good luck, love your stuff man!
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